{"id":417,"date":"2010-01-10T23:27:14","date_gmt":"2010-01-11T03:27:14","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/beatrice.com\/wordpress\/2010\/01\/10\/mclaughlin-kraus-interview\/"},"modified":"2015-05-08T18:44:05","modified_gmt":"2015-05-08T22:44:05","slug":"mclaughlin-kraus-interview","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/beatrice.com\/wordpress\/2010\/01\/10\/mclaughlin-kraus-interview\/","title":{"rendered":"Emma McLaughlin &#038; Nicola Kraus: Nanny&#8217;s Back, But On Their Terms"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img decoding=\"async\" id=\"image416\" src=\"http:\/\/beatrice.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/01\/nicolakraus-emmamclaughlin.jpg\" alt=\"nicolakraus-emmamclaughlin.jpg\" \/><\/p>\n<p>After the success of <i>The Nanny Diaries<\/i> back in 2002, there was strong interest in the publishing world in an immediate sequel, even though, as Nicola Kraus (left) recalled over a recent lunch, &#8220;we were clear that Nanny would never nanny again, and we thought that was the end of the story.&#8221; Her co-author, Emma McLaughlin, elaborated; various publishers offered significant incentives for a sequel, but there were conditions: &#8220;They all wanted Nanny to get her comeuppance,&#8221; she explained; either Nanny would start her own agency where the nannies on the staff would put her through hell, or she&#8217;d have to hire a nanny who would put her through hell. &#8220;We walked away from those leads because we stood by what Nanny had said at the end of the book,&#8221; McLaughlin added. &#8220;And we didn&#8217;t get into writing to set up a franchise. We didn&#8217;t want to come back to Nanny unless we had something new to say about her.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;It was a hard decision,&#8221; McLaughlin admitted. &#8220;It was a lot of money, enough that we would have been set &#8211;&#8221; &#8220;But it would&#8217;ve been a bad book,&#8221; Kraus chimed in. It wasn&#8217;t until two years ago that they hit upon the idea of Grayer, the pre-adolescent boy from <i>The Nanny Diaries<\/i>, discovering the videotape Nanny made at the end of that book and tracking her down for a confrontation. The question then became: What would happen? &#8220;It was different than any of the other books we&#8217;ve written since, in that from the beginning we knew all the characters very well,&#8221; Kraus said. &#8220;The real work of it was finding the story that would weave the characters back together.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>I wondered what the pair thought about the success of nonfiction like <i>740 Park<\/i> in the years after <I>The Nanny Diaries<\/i>, as it seemed to me like a continuation of the fascination with a certain class of Manhattan (and by extension American) elites. Kraus acknowledged the point, then added that they&#8217;d been fascinated by the recent trial and conviction of Brooke Astor&#8217;s son for bilking her of millions while she was alive then forging alterations to her will. &#8220;How would the dysfunctions we depicted in the first novel play out over generations?&#8221; she asked rhetorically. &#8220;How would the economy falling apart affect a class of people who have chosen money over love?&#8221; And thus: <a href=\"http:\/\/www.powells.com\/partner\/29017\/biblio\/1416585672\"><i>Nanny Returns<\/i><\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p>Going back to the authors&#8217; insistence on not pumping out a <i>Nanny<\/i> sequel in &#8217;02, we talked about the progression to the novel that <i>did<\/i> come next, <i>Citizen Girl<\/i>. &#8220;<i>The Nanny Diaries<\/i>, to us, was always a novel about work,&#8221; McLaughlin said. &#8220;and we were fascinated by the way that young women were being treated as employees as new media companies.&#8221; The silence about that exploitation seemed as prominent a blind spot to them as the silence about what domestic help had been put through, but they recognized that <i>Citizen Girl<\/i> would be a much different work; if <i>Nanny Diaries<\/i> was &#8220;a three-act play set in an elevator vestibule,&#8221; as McLaughlin laughingly described it, <i>Citizen Girl<\/i> was taking a much more complex economic situation and attempting to boil it down into a narrative framework. And though the backlash was vehement (perhaps in part, she observed, because some critics appeared to find two young women who didn&#8217;t have a &#8220;real&#8221; writing background attempting a novel addressing important themes overly presumptuous), it did have its champions&#8212;including <i>The New Republic<\/i>&#8212;and sold (&#8220;quietly,&#8221; McLaughlin laughed) about 200,000 copies.<\/p>\n<p>We reflected that when <i>Citizen Girl<\/i> was published, young feminist media consisted pretty much of <i>Bust<\/i> and <i>Bitch<\/i>, but in the last half-decade there&#8217;s been a proliferation of sites like <i>Jezebel<\/i> and <i>Feministing<\/i>&#8230; in some ways, I speculated, solidifying a potential audience for McLaughlin and Kraus&#8217;s 21st-century blend of pop culture and feminist critique. McLaughlin addressed the situation more broadly: &#8220;It makes me feel more optimistic about the future,&#8221; she observed. &#8220;It&#8217;s great to see the women of our generation asking these questions.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Meanwhile, the collaboration between the two grows ever stronger. &#8220;We trust each other so completely now,&#8221; Kraus said of their working relationship. &#8220;We used to get so entrenched in our perspectives, but now there&#8217;s maybe one thing in each book that each of us will dig our heels in about, whereas it used to be one in each chapter.&#8221; That&#8217;s good, because there&#8217;s plenty more work to do; the two put away note-scribbled pages from a screenplay when I arrived at our table, and next year they&#8217;ll be publishing <i>Over You<\/i>, their second YA novel&#8230; oh, and there&#8217;s a draft due on their next adult novel, too.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>After the success of The Nanny Diaries back in 2002, there was strong interest in the publishing world in an immediate sequel, even though, as Nicola Kraus (left) recalled over a recent lunch, &#8220;we were clear that Nanny would never nanny again, and we thought that was the end of the story.&#8221; Her co-author, Emma [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[2],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/beatrice.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/417"}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/beatrice.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/beatrice.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/beatrice.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/beatrice.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=417"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"http:\/\/beatrice.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/417\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":3693,"href":"http:\/\/beatrice.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/417\/revisions\/3693"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/beatrice.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=417"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/beatrice.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=417"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/beatrice.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=417"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}