{"id":1007,"date":"2010-12-10T02:42:28","date_gmt":"2010-12-10T06:42:28","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/beatrice.com\/wordpress\/2010\/12\/10\/paul-murray-interview\/"},"modified":"2011-05-04T00:42:08","modified_gmt":"2011-05-04T04:42:08","slug":"paul-murray-interview","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/beatrice.com\/wordpress\/2010\/12\/10\/paul-murray-interview\/","title":{"rendered":"Paul Murray: Filling in the School Novel&#8217;s Margins"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img decoding=\"async\" id=\"image1006\" src=\"http:\/\/beatrice.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/12\/paul-murray.jpg\" alt=\"paul-murray.jpg\" \/><\/p>\n<p>If only the caf&#233; down the street from Paul Murray&#8217;s hotel had donuts&#8212;our interview could have had that extra little touch of <a href=\"http:\/\/www.powells.com\/partner\/29017\/biblio\/0865479437\"><i>Skippy Dies<\/i><\/a> resonance. No such luck, but once I&#8217;ve brought a latte and a tea back to our table, we&#8217;re able to plunge into a wonderful conversation. I began by observing that if you read his first novel, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.powells.com\/partner\/29017\/biblio\/0812970403\"><i>An Evening of Long Goodbyes<\/i><\/a>, as an answer to the question &#8220;How do you pull off Wodehouse comedy in the 21st century?&#8221;, <i>Skippy Dies<\/i> could be seen as an answer to, &#8220;OK, then, how do you do the boarding school novel in the 21st century?&#8221; But of course Murray isn&#8217;t systematically working his way through the sub-genres of the 20th-century British novel. &#8220;I just found the environment of the school very enjoyable to write about,&#8221; he explained. &#8220;However many characters you want&#8230; the setting brings everything together.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>The novel had its origins in a short story about a biology teacher and one of his students, who had turned in a paper about &#8220;sea enemies;&#8221; when that story passed the 60-page mark, however, he tried to figure out how to scale it back. Then his brother suggested that maybe the answer was to build it out even further, into a novel, and Murray remembered a fragment of a story he&#8217;d written years earlier, about two schoolboys sitting in a diner having a donut-eating contest when one of them dies, and not from the expected causes&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;But the conventions of [the school novel] are so strong that you have an architecture given to you,&#8221; he reflected. &#8220;Most readers are so familiar with the scenario that you can experiment with the edges and take the story to different places. And if you have the grounding and a foundation that&#8217;s familiar to you, it&#8217;s easier to know what to leave out and get to the core of the story quicker.&#8221; So the novel&#8217;s Seabrook College is, he admitted, &#8220;pretty identical&#8221; to his own school (&#8220;although I wasn&#8217;t boarding, thank God&#8221;), enough that former classmates would be able to recognize the layout and the buildings. &#8220;But the teachers I invented&#8230; I never feel right about using characters from real life; they never quite fit the bill.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p>That said, it was important to Murray&#8212;and crucial to the novel&#8217;s success with readers&#8212;that the characters come across as absolutely authentic, which is part of the reason he&#8217;s uncomfortable with having the label &#8220;satire&#8221; attached to <i>Skippy Dies<\/i>. &#8220;As I understand satire, the characters are used for the author&#8217;s ends, for mocking, parodying, or criticizing,&#8221; he said. &#8220;But I wanted this to be, first of all, a believable story, with real characters.&#8221; And though many of the adolescent characters are, in Murray&#8217;s words, &#8220;cynical, sarcastic, and lost in their own delusions&#8221; (which of course leads to some of the most hilarious moments), his own favorite among the students, is &#8220;probably the sweetest of the bunch&#8230; All the way through, he&#8217;s trying to keep everyone tamped down.&#8221; (Thankfully, at least from the reader&#8217;s perspective, he only occasionally succeeds.)<\/p>\n<p>So a character whose early scenes might suggest that he&#8217;ll be a stock buffoon, or maybe a villain, for example, is gradually revealed as a flawed personality still capable of grace, while a teenage girl readers might dismiss as an airhead becomes the focus of some of the final act&#8217;s most heartbreaking scenes. OK, Seabrook&#8217;s principal, nicknamed &#8220;The Automator,&#8221; is a fairly cartoonish character, but as Murray and I discuss how maybe one caricature in an otherwise realistic setting works dramatically, he points out that the Automator&#8217;s choices about how to run the school are, fundamentally, the ones that would be made in a similar real-life situation.<\/p>\n<p>Earlier this year, <i>Skippy Dies<\/i> was on the longlist for the Man Booker Prize. &#8220;It felt great,&#8221; he laughed when I couldn&#8217;t put the question off any longer. &#8220;It was very strange&#8230; Books don&#8217;t get a huge amount of cultural attention, but the media <i>does<\/i> go ballistic for the Booker, so even just getting on the longlist was a huge event. All the people who had ignored the book when it first came out were now interested.&#8221; The experience wound up being quite stressful for Murray, in part because he attempted to stick to his usual writing schedule while dealing with all this attention from the press. &#8220;Still, not to sound facetious, but if you want to get your name out there, get yourself on that list.&#8221; (He was accepting about <i>Skippy Dies<\/i> not making the final shortlist, but genuinely surprised that his literary compatriot, David Mitchell, also failed to make the cut.)<\/p>\n<p>Finally, we talked about some of the books Murray had enjoyed in recent months, including another high school novel, Eleanor Catton&#8217;s <a href=\"http:\/\/www.powells.com\/partner\/29017\/biblio\/0316074330\"><i>The Rehearsal<\/i><\/a>, as well as Elif Batuman&#8217;s <a href=\"http:\/\/www.powells.com\/partner\/29017\/biblio\/0374532184\"><i>The Possessed<\/i><\/a> and, &#8220;finally,&#8221; Laurence Sterne&#8217;s <a href=\"http:\/\/www.powells.com\/partner\/29017\/biblio\/0141439777\"><i>Tristram Shandy<\/i><\/a>. &#8220;Friends had told me they were sure I would like it, that it was funny and sounded very postmodern, but it sounded really arch and annoying,&#8221; he said of that last selection. &#8220;But it&#8217;s a book that proves you can do anything you want in a novel&#8212;it doesn&#8217;t matter what the plot is, what the shape is&#8212;as long as you stick to it and write it with enough care.&#8221; Which is, I think, almost exactly how many <i>Skippy Dies<\/i> fans would put it, too.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>If only the caf&#233; down the street from Paul Murray&#8217;s hotel had donuts&#8212;our interview could have had that extra little touch of Skippy Dies resonance. No such luck, but once I&#8217;ve brought a latte and a tea back to our table, we&#8217;re able to plunge into a wonderful conversation. 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